I hope it performs well, but for the past three years ati cards have only done well in synthetics thanks to higher specs but they seem to lack in their API and always lose to their technically slower nvidia counterparts. they need to go on an aggressive campaign like nvidia and start giving companies unreleased equipment to develop for.
look at the past couple of years, nvidia has and will stay in the lead. once ati comes out with a new chipset what will nvidia do? they will relase their next model.
#15 because power consumption really matters to enthusiasts that want to get the best performance?
WOW IMA GUNNA GET AN ATI COZ IT'LL SAVE 3$ ON MAI ELEKTRISITEE BIL
And lower power = less heat = more OC is bullsh1t. Nvidia cards perform better at stock speeds and the performce boost you can get from OC'ing your GPU is negligible if you have a good build, and not worth blowing your warranty for.
#16 Please, tell me where i stated that power consumption matters. All i said was that is the way the card is being designed so no need to make yourself look silly.
#17 you didn't, I'm just implying that ATI's focus is terrible, the people that buy mid to high end GPU's have atleast a mild hardware understanding, and the only reason anyone get's a mid to high end GPU is because of performance. Thus, no one is interested in buying a worse card that is a little bit cheaper because it consumes less power.
I understand what you are saying, and despite ATI's shift towards better power consumption, they are designing the 4870 X2 to scale much better than the 3870 X2 so don't expect that card to be a slouch.
I don't own an ATI but i probably will in the future because Nvdia and Intel are being stupid with each other. No point in getting a sucky nvidia chipset mobo for sli when i can xfire.
ATI was the boss with it's 1900XTX, now Nvidia is the holder of top seed. ATI will come back. So it's and endless battle. Buy which you can for your price range.
As a rule, these technology companies are constantly pushing each other and stealing benchmarks. So long as ATI and Nvidia remain the two major GPU makers, expect them to passing back and fourth the performance crown for many years to come (hypothetically, but at the same time new companies are always forming, and old ones always being bought out. I would expect Intel to shake things up a lot once they enter the GPU market).
AMD/ATI have been in a rut, yes, but I can assure you they will be back on top at some point in the future (and then fall from grace again). It's just the way things work in the industry, it's very competitive.
technically ATi has not had the performance crown since the 9800 line. the 1900XTX was the top performer, but it wasn't easily available until nvidia ended up shipping out their next gen line, which ended up being around the same performance at a lower price, higher availability and lower power consumption.
i wish ATi would step up and come out of the blue like they did with the 9800 line, but nvidia is just more aggressive with their "meant to be played" campaign and is getting developers to make games run better on their lower spec'd cards.
ATi needs to either totally revamp their current API or start to mimic nvidia's designs because they've shown that their increased spec's aren't translating directly to performance.
ATI 4800's
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ati-rade..
Devil?
Well I guess the card will perform slightly better than the 9800GTX because it's going to sell from 329$ to 349$.
Yea ATI always seems to have some sort of devilish look on their GPU's or in advertising.
I expect it to be atleast 15% faster than the 9800GTX
"Overclockers should have no problem reaching the magic 4 GHz mark for the GDDR5 memory"
WOW IMA GUNNA GET AN ATI COZ IT'LL SAVE 3$ ON MAI ELEKTRISITEE BIL
And lower power = less heat = more OC is bullsh1t. Nvidia cards perform better at stock speeds and the performce boost you can get from OC'ing your GPU is negligible if you have a good build, and not worth blowing your warranty for.
just accept it.
all my life I used ATI and now I'm more than tired of it... for now and for me only nvidia
My last card was a 1900XTX, returned it in like a week. CAN'T stand Catalyst drivers...
As a rule, these technology companies are constantly pushing each other and stealing benchmarks. So long as ATI and Nvidia remain the two major GPU makers, expect them to passing back and fourth the performance crown for many years to come (hypothetically, but at the same time new companies are always forming, and old ones always being bought out. I would expect Intel to shake things up a lot once they enter the GPU market).
AMD/ATI have been in a rut, yes, but I can assure you they will be back on top at some point in the future (and then fall from grace again). It's just the way things work in the industry, it's very competitive.
i wish ATi would step up and come out of the blue like they did with the 9800 line, but nvidia is just more aggressive with their "meant to be played" campaign and is getting developers to make games run better on their lower spec'd cards.
ATi needs to either totally revamp their current API or start to mimic nvidia's designs because they've shown that their increased spec's aren't translating directly to performance.
Laptop market segment?? Putting some focus on power use isn't such a bad thing especially since it is now trendy anyways.