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Ikari Optical or Laser?

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Guys which one? Asking those who already had the mice, i'm used to the da on mantis speed already which is like 5mm~
But no neg accel plz, i HATE it...
My sens is 30~40cm/360, it depends~
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By the way, i dumped my da, cause, i'm in aisa, its insanely humid here, and the da is sliperry like hell, i cant even lift it properly...
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If you don't like surfaces like the one of an MX518, you won't like Ikari Optical's surface neither. You'll sweat on every mouse (at least I do), but the only one that doesn't disburb (so much) is an IMO 1.1 in my case from what I remember. I used an IMO 1.1 at the end of 2005 last time, I think. That's why I get a (new) IMO 1.1 the day after tomorrow because I want to see, if I won't sweat by using it when I play really long. I mean a little bit more than 5 hours.

B2t. From what I can remember "Tetsu" reviewed both Ikari, Optical and Laser. He said they've got terrible tracking, but I don't know.
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Lol, i guess he cant live with high lift-off, but i can, 4mm is okay to me~
Btw, i totally hate neg accel, no neg accel pl0x~ T.T
They said the laser is more responsive sue to the better buffering rate, is that true?
Or is that a biased opinion?
My sens is mostly 30cm/260, am i a low-sens? mY cs:s sens is 6/11, 450dpi, ingame sens 3
Whats that sens roughtly? ?/360
Btw, to top is sliperry, i dont mind it, cause i grip with my thumb/ring/pinky~
Top finish doesnt matters to me, but the da uses those horrible plastic on the sides damn that!

I hope the optical ikari has no neg accel, i cannot live with neg accel...
So now, still, which to get? T.T
Laser or Optical, help please...
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Laser definitely.. good tracking+shape+low lift
optical has insanely high lift

and no they don't have terrible tracking #3 lol
it just depends on what surface you use it on
i used the ikari laser on the dkt everglide (clothpad just like the mantis speed) and the razer destructor (hardpad) and i don't get any tracking problems with my fast swipes.
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optical cause i have the laser and it doesnt pick up really fast movements all the time so i went back to my mx510
Chopped up not slopped up
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Specifications for SteelSeries Ikari Laser:


- Samples per second: 40.000

- Inches per second: 50

- Counts per inch: 1 - 3.200 (one CPI Steps)

- Acceleration: 20 G

- Sensor data path: True 16 bit

- Lift distance: 1,8 mm (0,07 inch)

- Buttons: 5

- Cord: 2 m / 6,5 ft (braided to improve durability)

- Polling: 1000 Hz

- Gold-plated USB connector

- Measurements: 130 x 83 x 36 mm / 5,1 x 3,3 x 1,4 in

- CPI high/low indicator

- SteelSeries FreeMove Technology

- Large pressure points that reduce friction for optimized glide

- Driverless, plug-and-play feature for LAN gamers

- Operating systems: Win XP/Vista/Win 2000/Win 98/Win ME/Mac OS
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Specifications for SteelSeries Ikari Optical:


- Frames per second: 6.500

- Inches per second: 40

- Counts Per Inch (CPI): 400 - 1600

- Acceleration: 15 G

- Buttons: 5

- Cord: 2 m / 6,5 ft (braided to improve durability)

- Polling: 1000 Hz

- Lift distance: 3,5 mm

- CPI high/low indicator

- Gold-plated USB connector

- Large pressure points that reduce friction for optimized glide

- Driverless, plug-and-play feature for LAN gamers

- Measurements: 130 x 83 x 36 mm / 5,1 x 3,3 x 1,4 in

- Operating systems: Win XP/Vista/Win 2000/Win 98/Win ME/Mac OS
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optical has neg accel
get the laser, it DOES pick up really fast movements #6.. just depends on the surface
laser has REALLY low liftoff
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Good to know. Even if I never thought about lift-off distance. I don't know how much of it an MX518 has (mouse I've got yet). However, I didn't know there are differences between mice or surfaces concerning to lift-off distance.
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Ikari Laser is gg =D
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Rly, which can track at higher speeds? Wothout having neg accel?
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Btw, a interesting question,
Lets say, the optical starts having neg accel at 40cm/360, wont the laser stop tracking at 30cm/360 already?
I mean, wont the optical track at higher speeds without facing malfunction speed(neg accel, skipping, stop tracking) then the laser?

edit, spell error

This comment was edited at 07/16/2008 5:52 AM
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laser mice have gotten to the point now where they are better than optical tracking... the ikari laser doesnt skip whatsoever.
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Ikari Lases ftw
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bullveyr, u using the laser now?
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jep and I realy like it
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Oic, did u tried the optical be4?
If yes, why did yopu ditched it?
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dont buy mice from mousepad company
list of proplayers settings and configs -> http://www.gotfrag.com/cs/xact/user/buddy..
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never tried the optical, my sens isn't that low and I like the DPI adjustment
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Okay, btw whats the weight of the mice precisely?
Excluding the cable?
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pretty lightweight, about 100g
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I've owned a G5 as well as a 518. Everybody talks poorly about laser mice, but to be completely honest, the laser tracked better (G5) then the 518 does. The lift off distance is the best feature.
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Still havent pick between them =/
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Get a MX518 Batman Edition (The Dark Knight Limited Edition)... Erm... Wait! It's available only in Europe
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Hmm, the only tracking issues the optical had is liftoff, right?
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i had the optical one for like 3 days then i returned it( huge liftoff---thats my personal opinion, dont attack me.) exchange with the laser one and i dont have any problem with it( my ie3 ss is my backup mouse now.) if you want choose between optical and laser go for the laser one.
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somiao what's ur choice now?
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Get the laser the optical sucks because of the high liftoff. The thing with any laser mouse is they are good, but if you use low sensitivity you may have tracking issues, also lasers have more tracking issues on different pads in comparison to topical. If you're having a tracking issue with a laser mouse its most likely your mousepad
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I use like 40cm/360, btw, i thought the laser ikari has better tracking speed then the ime 3.0?
If people can use the 3.0 for low sens, why not the ikari??

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