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Salmosaa First Impression

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its not that small actually, if you like krait or io 1.1, chance is you might like salmosa too
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w10/pr..

it looks very small when i placed it on my fnatic titan lol
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w10/pr..

the lift off distance is extremely high...literally higher than DA without firmware update, but after i put tape on, you can barely noticed the lift off( nearly as low as ie3)
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w10/pr..

it feels pretty comfy and i like it a lot.

P.s: the clicking sound is kinda loud compare the the other mice

currently using :

4/11 window sens
500hz
1.8 in game

This comment was edited at 10/27/2008 7:18 PM
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http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w10/pr..
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w10/pr..
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w10/pr..

happy now ma am? its the first impression, do i need to write you an essay or something?
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LOL #3 > #2
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It would be nice if somebody could post a pic with a WMO since those two are so similar.
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its smaller then a wmo the thing i hate about the salmosa is the buttons take up far to much of its tiny body

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where did you get it, and how much american dollers was it?
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#7, not everyone can be tetsu, considering i dont have time to write a "pro" first impression

#8, i got it from amazon....35.24(free shipping)
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bohnet is just used to those cool sites that review mice like the lachesis.
they dont know what to review so they show pictures of the unboxing etc.
if you want a quick and decent review of the salmosa, here you go:
http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/15/revi..
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nice :) but looks very very small.
my deathadder should arrive in a few days :P
oh yeah, what dpi you use?
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#11
do a review or w/e of the deathadder im looking towards getting 1 whenever my mx518 decides to die if it does
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Nice. i tried one of these at my local pc store. I would only sugest getting this if you either have small hands, use palm grip, or have an elevated hand (only rest fingertips on mouse) . I have uber sized hands and my palm was scraping the desk when i used it lol.
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#12 deathadder pwns, get it whenever your 518 does die.

Great control, it's comfortable(unlike some razer mice which just feel weird when you hold them), I've had it for almost a year now and so far no issues. I havent had any negative accel problems with it, it obviously doesnt skip if you whip it around but this is standard in most high quality gaming mice. The lift off distance is relatively low so it wont go crazy on you if you run out of pad and have to center it, and the grip and feel is good, it's not rubber so it wont stick to your hands but it's not glossy plastic either so it wont slide if you dont grip it very hard.
I'm using it on a 5L as a prefer medium to high grip pads, don't really know how it will do on a speed oriented pad, but I believe it'll perform well.

my setup is:
4/11 windows
1000 dpi
1.9-2.2 ingame depending on my day
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** this is in regards to the deathadder as well as the salmosa (avago 3688 sensor)

these mice perform best @ 1800dpi/1000hz
http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1..

now, the obvious problem with these settings is that the sensitivity will be too high for consistent and quick precision.
one way to cancel this out is to lower your ingame sensitivity, however, in games such as 1.6 the mouse will start to skip as the cursor on your desktop will constantly be hitting the edges of your screen.
most people have solved this issue by using 3/11 windows sensitivity, which brings the sensitivity down to 450dpi without degrading the performance of the mouse. i suggest you do this with the deathadder, diamondback3g as well as the salmosa.

mini reviews:
deathadder cons:
- heavy (takes away reaction, miniscule issue but still an issue)
- lights (i understand that companies must attract gamers aka kids but that doesnt make it okay), this being said you can turn the lights off via the drivers
- i suppose some people may not like the shape
salmosa cons:
- high liftoff distance (deathadder had the same issue upon release, im sure updates on drivers will solve this)

hope i helped
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#14: There is no 1000 dpi setting on DA.
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#1 where did you get that 3.0 ??
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#17 i got it from the ss website when it first came out
#11 i use 1800dpi
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my imo 1.1 ss > your ime ss, dont see the point of the 3.0 ss, the original is already glossy :(
only mice i own now are the G1 and imo 1.1ss.
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#19, my ime ss> your imo 1.1 ss

you got the point here buddy? its about what you think, not other ppls thingk

internet opinions, nobody wins
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add some thing to it :
"most people have solved this issue by using 3/11 windows sensitivity, which brings the sensitivity down to 450dpi without degrading the performance of the mouse. i suggest you do this with the deathadder, diamondback3g as well as the salmosa."

some people might have experiencing its kinda slow with 3/11 windows sens, while your desktop resolution is 1440*900 or higher. You can use 4/11 windows sens

This comment was edited at 10/28/2008 12:51 PM
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#9 is it free shipping for every1?
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#22 i think so, here is the link

http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Salmosa-1800d..
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1800 dpi/ 3rd notch/ 2.4 ingame - DeathAdder best mouse eveer :D
Hmm
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#24 how can u play at 1800 and ingame 2.4? isnt it to high
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#25: He plays at 3/11 Windows sens, which is equal to 450 dpi.
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#26 is correct
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if you are using 1800 dpi:

3/11=450
4/11 = 900
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#28 thanks
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­ ­1/11 - 0.03125
­ ­2/11 - 0.0625
­ ­3/11 - 0.25
­ ­4/11 - 0.5
­ ­­5/11 - 0.75
­ ­­6/11 - 1
­ ­­7/11 - 1.5
­ ­8/11 - 2
­ ­9/11 - 2.5
10/11 - 3
11/11 - 3.5
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#1 is it exactly as big as razer krait ?

This comment was edited at 10/29/2008 9:16 AM
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gimmi your 1.1 steelseries special edition please :D
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#32 thats 3.0 ss in the pic :|
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#32,#33 is correct its an 3.0 ss not 1.1 ss

#31, yea, they are about the same:

krait dimensions: 120mm (length) x 60.5mm (width) x 37mm (height)
salmosa dimension: 115mm (length) x 63mm (width) x 37mm (height)
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Asian Salmosa: 95.9mm (length) x 54.4mm(width) x 33.3mm (height)

I just ordered an asian edition, it keeps the dpi switch but it hasnt the hz one so its 125 by default except using an overrider
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#36 rofl? warden, you are funny...
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the salmosa has a great sensor since it shares the DA 3g, but the fact is that the DA is probably the best mouse for Counter strike ever created, and if you're gonna spend 40 bucks anyway, why not go all the way and get the DA for a couple bucks more?
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#38 so you like my DA better than my salmosa ayy?:

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w10/pr..

i ilike salmosa better cuz other cs, i spend a lot of time play wc3 too....i dont buy a mouse just for one game
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Am I to be looking at the mouse or the P.S. I Love You DVD?
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#40 a lil bit of both lawl
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the salmosa and the DA have the exact same sensor, and it goes to 1800 DPI so it will work just fine for any game you're playing, the only difference is that the DA has a more ergonomical shape to it. Oh and the extra side buttons. i mean technically this means that the salmosa is also an amazing mouse for CS because it uses the same sensor but i like the two extra buttons and the shape.

I suppose if you only use the 3 main buttons and like the small symmetrical shape better than the salmosa is the mouse for you.
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Great mouse, I've had it for a couple weeks now.

Small, light, and very comfortable. Plus you can easily make it 500-1000 mouse rate in VISTA, which was something I couldn't do with my g1, unless fooling around with that driver signature BS.

Never skips, the mouse buttons are a little louder than usual, and m2 sometimes squeaks faintly. But honestly, these are very minor issues of a great mouse, because with headphones, and when you're playing, you can't hear anything anyways. I've already forgotten about it.

Definitely a mouse of choice if you like small mice, have small hands, or are a fingertip user. If you like the g1, g3, or mx300, etc, you'll love the salmosa.
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the sharp edges of the mouse are really shitty. I hated it from the first minute :-/
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my mouse1 and mouse2 make loud annoying squeaking sounds that started on the second day. the mouse also feels a bit off balance like the mouse feet are uneven. the sensor is really good though so i'm sticking with it for a while but it has the typical flaws that are always found in razer products. the shape is good, probably razer's best but i miss having side buttons. it's also the first mouse i've used by razer that doesn't look like a gimmicky cheap piece of sh*t with glowing lights and tacky design.
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#44 How about a Razer Krait? Just switched to it from a WMO. I can't see any flaws of the sensor and you get used to its shape rapidly. It's just an idea! ;)
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I just got one order came. I like the weight of it. Lightest mouse I've used so far. Was using a wheel mouse optical which was about 80g on my scale. This one is only 70-71g.

They should have just put one long strip of feet at the front and back. Instead of just strip in back and 2 small in front.
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Yeah, but every Razer mouse has got 3 mouse feet since 2004.
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About the theory where the mouse dpi changes according to your windows sensitivity, where exactly is it based ? It doesn't seem right to me
clutch?
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#49: No one ever said it changes your dpi. It just multiplies the amount of cursor movement on your mouse while the dpi stays constant. Luckily, the changes are pretty consistent so you can, for example, put it on 3/11, which gives you a multiplier of 0.25, and use 1600 dpi to effectively reach the same result as though you used 400 dpi. That is most commonly used to maintain a low sensitivity while also maintaining the highest performance level on the 3G sensor by Razer.

However, using 6/11 is said to give the best results because it maintains 1:1 ratio between cursor movement and actualy physical movement.

This comment was edited at 11/20/2008 9:06 AM

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