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XFX HD-489X-ZSFC Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=..

Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case -

Antec CP-850 850W Continuous Power CPX SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDe..

GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=..

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX

OCZ Gold 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G16004GK - www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.a..


$829.94

I already have a HD and a dvd rom.
Also I have a 500W thermaltake Power supply. Would that be enough for this build or should I stick with the new antec?
829.94

I was originally trying to build a $600 comp. So if anyone knows how to make this comp cheaper or has advise on the the build itself I would much appreciate it.
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That build isn't good, unless your plan is to waste as much money as possible.

Go browse the old build threads from like a months ago and search for either my builds or elko's builds.

There are plenty of fantastic builds here:
http://hardware.gotfrag.com/portal/forums/58/


Good luck and post back for final confirmation once you get something better =]

This comment was edited at 11/04/2009 5:37 AM
GOD DA_MN it harle you just ruined it
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it's good.. but for the price, definitely not like harle said.

first things first, 850w is WAY to much power, you'll maybe use half of that. you're 500w thermaltake PSU would be fine for this psu.

an antec 1200 is also not the best choice for a $600-$800 build. i suggest the antec 300 illusion or the CM Rc-690, the A300 is about $60 while the rc-690 is bout $85. both are great though the 300 has better cooling.

mobo aint that bad.

the gpu is not the best choice. you should get the 5770 because it's cheaper, has better power consumption, DX11, EyeFinity, future proof and is faster.

just switch those up and you'll probably bring your price down to $650 or so.
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Thanks Harle and Elko for the advice. I was hoping to hear from you 2 in this thread. OK so I changed a few things and got the price down to $695. I took out the power supply, but was wondering if I should keep that one because my old one isn't crossfire ready.

I'm going with the Antec 1200 because my last case I bought was cheap and ran very hot with 1 fan...I didn't know what I was doing when buying it. So I'm going to get the 1200 so I can keep for a while and keep my comp cool with its 5 plus fans. If I don't go for this 1200 I will get the 9 hundred which will save me about $60

I actually upgraded the PSU to the 965 - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 140W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ965FBGIBOX. I could save $20 tho if I go for the 955.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp..

I also hanged my MOBO to this - GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - It was cheaper than the other one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp..

I took your advise Elko and changed my gpu to a 5770 - XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - I noticed that this is a 128 bit and the 4890 I had was a 256 (big deal?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp..

Also went with different ram - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp..

If you guys have any other advise keep it coming. I'm open for anything. This is my first time building alone. Last one a friend pretty much just picked everything out and said order that. I didn't know much at all at that time and this time around I know more than I did, but can still use all the help I can get. Thanks guys.

This comment was edited at 11/04/2009 3:15 PM
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you won't need crossfire, unless you want to, but with your price range it's not really recommended. so stick with that 500w PSU.

well the antec 300 Illusion is also a great case, it has PLENTY of fans + great air flow, and suits your price range. the 1200 is a bit too much, 900 is the most i would go for.

i really don't see a big reason why to buy the 965 over the 955 since it's just clocked 200mhz higher and you could easily over clock past that with the 955 and its $20 cheaper. i'd stick with the 955 since i doubt the 965 has much better benchmarks.

that mobo is great :) no point in going for a crossfire ready PSU if you're mobo only has 1 pci-e 2.0 slot, so yeah just stick with this mobo and the thermaltake PSU.

memory looks fine.

if you really want to get the 965 then i suggest you switch the case to an antec 300/900 it'll definitely be worth saving that extra money. a 1200 is for a build that is SLI and stuff.
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Do you think I should go for Crossfire?
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nah, the 5770 will easily run any game available, maybe not at 60fps in games like crysis and stuff but it'll at least get 30 there :)
but.................. it could be more future proof if you'd prefer to add another 5770 in there, i'd rather suggest you just upgrade your gpu in 2 years or so. it'll be cheaper.
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Not to mention as they release new drivers for the 5770 it will help out the performance.
oh
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alright so I'm going to post the final build now just to make sure that you guys are ok with it. ( I'm ok with it)

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 140W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ965FBGIBOX
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=..

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=..

XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=..

GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=..

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=..

$635.95 (Haven't decided if I should save the extra 20 and just go with the phenom 955)

Thanks for the help Elko you really came through and if there is anything else I need to know please say. Harle you ok with this now?
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The 965 is the same as the 955 just clocked higher.
oh
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looks nice to me.
wait for harlE's approval, he probably has some amazing combo deal like always ^_^
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harlEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE , king of GOTFRAG HARDWARE (Y)

This comment was edited at 11/04/2009 6:17 PM
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#12 wrong

It's harlEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEh ze-pc-genious
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IMO get the Antec 902 and go with the 955. The 902 is $10 more but comes with dust filters on the front fans, the fans speeds are easier to adjust. The case is also black inside and out which makes even my puke colored p5b-E board look nice.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp..
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is that ram ok with my MOBO?
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also this is the power supply I will be using... is it going to work with the video card? the power supply doesnt have a pcie connector.
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=..
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AMD X2 550 + 4GB DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDe..

Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp..

COOLER MASTER RC-690
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp..

Rosewill RP600V2-S-SL 600W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp..

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp..

Radeon HD 5770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp..



I wouldn't really go with AMD unless you're going for the X2 550 or X3 720.
If you think that's too risky then you can always get a i5 build.
GOD DA_MN it harle you just ruined it
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am bad.
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So are you saying it would be better if I went with an I5??? I just went with AMD because my last one was an AMD and didn't have any problems with it. If you're thinking I5's what kind of build could you do for around 650.... dont need a HD or DVD rom

This comment was edited at 11/04/2009 10:03 PM
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Actually I just did research on the 965 and it looks really good.

I take back what I said it's competitive with the Intels, AMD dropped their prices since I stopped caring about hardware stuff..

So yea 965/i5/i7 all have the same value but the unlocked 550 is still the king =]



Also I forgot to mention but your 500w Coolermaster power supply won't be enough.

This comment was edited at 11/04/2009 10:09 PM
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965 means mobo flash though
am bad.
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140W vs 125W
am bad.
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#21 Either way 550 is the way to go ._.

This comment was edited at 11/04/2009 10:17 PM
GOD DA_MN it harle you just ruined it
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Awww.. don't stop caring. People need your advise around here, but anyways thanks for doing some research for me. I think I'm actually going to go with the 955 I think, but if you are that confident with the 950 maybe I will do that.

This comment was edited at 11/04/2009 10:20 PM
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1) Buy 550
2) Flash to BIOS version F2C
3) Unlock extra cores
4) ?!?
5) Profit

As far as me not caring. I don't even go on Gotfrag anymore since it's pretty much dead.

This comment was edited at 11/04/2009 10:20 PM
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Alright I'm going to post it with the 550.... you talked me into it unless someone else says otherwise....
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Go with it #26 its a hell of a deal

This comment was edited at 11/04/2009 11:02 PM
oh
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should I get windows 7 32 bit or 64 bit?

64bit
GOD DA_MN it harle you just ruined it
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Thanks for your help guys. I ended up going with this.

GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/Shoppin..

XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE
www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.a..

AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor Model HDZ550WFGIBOX
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDe..

Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDe..
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That psu is a little overkill, especially considering the low power consumption of the 5770
oh

Yea... it's overkill.

It'll last you until his next build though I guess and it's a decent combo deal.

This comment was edited at 11/05/2009 4:33 PM
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yeah I'm getting it so I can have good power for upgrades.
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whats wrong with the 500w PSU harlE? his pc will probably use 400w at the max o_O

14amps on the +12v rails

His PC will use more power than that at load. (which will make his computer freeze/crash)

Plus he'd need an adapter for the PCI-e connector, just not worth it.
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wait, where do you see this? all he said was a 500w psu :O

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oh didnt see that post :P

in that case.. definitely don't stick with that PSU
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haha... thanks for the concern

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