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FPSLabs Home: NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT

By: Thomas Gribble - Published October 29, 2007 at 6:35 AM EST - Writer Archive
So let me get this straight: GTS < GT < GTX? Does that follow any sort of logical nomenclature? No. Is the 8800GT the amazing product that NVIDIA (sort of) needs it to be?


In every industry product launches are often the cause of a fair amount of hype. At times this hype can be generated well before a physical product even exists, based solely on the merit of the announced specifications or characteristics. In the hardware industry, there is no kind of product launch more capable of generating hype than video cards. The intense rivalry between ATI (AMD) and NVIDIA, the two main players in the consumer graphics industry, fuels a unique polarization of hardware enthusiasts on review sites and message boards that is characterized by die-hard backing and often downright hateful comments towards their adversaries. Thanks to the relative frequency with which graphics cards are launched, the two ends of this rivalry seem to be in a perpetual argument over who’s favored company will reign supreme when the dust has settled. As a group of people who beyond a shadow of a doubt have no loyalties to either company involved we can say pretty definitively that no matter which one ends up on top after a video card launch, everyone that argued over which side would prevail was ultimately wrong. For the most part, it really doesn’t matter what the result of a video card launch-off is – the consumer usually comes out on top. The fierce competition between ATI and NVIDIA over the years has kept video card prices relatively low, which enables a very large audience of enthusiasts and gamers to gobble up high-end video card offerings from either company. However, a simple trip to and search of your favorite etailer’s website will make it abundantly clear that something is not quite right in the video card world.

For the past year (almost one full year exactly) NVIDIA could do nothing wrong. On November 8, 2006, they launched a series of video cards based on a radically new graphics core called G80. The flagship of this series was a card called the GeForce 8800GTX. Our testing of the card, using drivers that were at the time still pretty immature and not as feature-rich as they would end up being, revealed that it thoroughly dominated everything else on the market almost by a factor of 2 (note: by “everything” we mean video cards, not steroid-popping hunks of silicon and metal that somehow make images appear on your screen). NVIDIA supporters the world over heralded the card as a deathblow to ATI, who at the time was reportedly having all kinds of problems getting their answer to the G80, R600, out the door. Six months gone the release of the 8800GTX, a full three months beyond the typical three month offset, it would appear the rumors about R600’s inadequacies were true. Not even a highly augmented version of the R600’s flagship manifestation Radeon HD2900XT could hold any sort of serious candle to the GTX, the very same card that had gone uncontested at the top of the graphics mountain for six months. To add insult to injury, right before ATI (AMD) launched their red behemoth to the public, NVIDIA announced, launched, and made available a new SKU of their G80 series, the GeForce 8800 Ultra. As the name would imply, the 8800Ultra was designed to be the pinnacle of G80’s incredible performance. It was, despite a pretty much unanimous reaction by publications reviewing the card that it was not worth the stomach churning price of $820 (totally wasn’t, NVIDIA realized that and now it’s going for about $600), and according to the testimonials of many leading system integrators in the area it still sold pretty well. There is something quite appealing about possessing the most powerful graphics card on the planet – and that distinction has gone to NVIDIA products for almost one year (and should remain there until sometime in 2008).

The negative side to this, of course, is that there was very little (read: none) competition for NVIDIA in the high-end graphics segment for pretty much three fiscal quarters. Since they had no competition trying to outsell them by offering similar performance at lower prices, NVIDIA had no reason to drop the MSRP of any of their cards. The 8800GTX, a card that had an initial MSRP of $599 in November of 2006, has only dropped in price to $499 a full year later. This is an extremely tiny price drop for a graphics card, especially one that is kind of old. Then, finally, a couple of months ago some information came through the pipes about something that ATI (AMD) was working on that would finally put an end to this $500 high-end entrance fee. RV670, a.k.a. Radeon HD3800, would supposedly offer HD2900XT performance or better for just $200USD (256MB) or $249USD (512MB). Although the Radeon HD2900XT is not the best card in the world, it’s performance is still undeniably superior to the GeForce 8800GTS 640MB, the third entry down on NVIDIA’s totem pole of performance. Where the GeForce 8800GTS 640MB goes for $350, a card that beats it by what should be a pretty significant margin will go for just $250. The RV670 would not be a champion in the performance market, but its incredibly low price point would effectively eliminate both flavors of NVIDIA’s GeForce 8800GTS and ATI’s own HD2900 series as viable options for consumers looking to get a high-end video card. Beyond that, the HD2900XT is not so far behind the GeForce 8800GTX in performance that paying an extra $250 for the better card would be worth it for most users, which means NVIDIA’s go-to product for the past year might finally have met its match in the form of a smaller, cheaper card from ATI.

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nVidia is really locking down the market. This will make for a very interesting inner-debate amongst soon to be buyers.
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Thomas "Shoesy" Gribble, the most underrated man in history.

I didn't wait for the GT, instead got the GTS and was very satisfied. The 8800 series, even on the "low-end" is still extremely powerful stuff. I got the 320mb because I don't play super high res, so the 640mb would be pretty useless to me. So I got it like 100 bucks cheaper.

The last ATi card I had was a 9700 pro. Not sure if I will ever go back, even if ATi has better alternatives. :P
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amazing for us consumers. Lots of cheap high performance cards on the market - interesting to see what the new GTS,GTX & HD3800s will do

This comment was edited at 10/29/2007 7:35 AM
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Dayumn, I popped a boner. ;o

Tempted to get that for my new build.
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Yay, I hope Santa brings me one :D
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haha, nice pic at the end
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WOW ! I'm really impressed you guys managed to get such a detailled review out so early, good job shoesy ! Fpslabs is really getting better and better :D

I don't have the time to read this whole thing but I noticed the numbers seem a little different from other sites (thinking about anandtech..) where the gt was really over the gts at all time and even got close to the gtx...

One other thing... while reading the post on NCIX about the release of the card, they also said they received "revisions" of the 8800gts 640mb, I wonder if these really are revisions that would keep them better than the new addition to the 8 series...
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gj :)

great review
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this card is nuts ^_^
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Looks Good!
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#7 we found the same trends as Anandtech, but since our processor runs games differently than theres our numbers are less pronounced. They were also given NVIDIA's updated beta drivers while we were stuck using oldies. Even still, they came to the same conclusion that this card is insane.
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Yea this cards pretty much insane and all the rumors about this card were basically true. So good review and maybe I might be seeing this card in my rig sometime soon if I can sell my 7900gt and get some money back. I guess the gt line is always the best line :)
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Could someone please tell me which 8800GTS they used to benchmark with? Was it the 320MB or the 640MB version?
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640MB, as stated on page 4
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what a beast, now i don't even have to upgrade my psu to get a good card since i only have 1 PCI-E connector...amazing. Schnops mentioned in another post that when AA and AF were enabled, the 8800 GT didn't perform nearly as well as it did with them off...on 2nd thought, that appears to be the case only in company of heroes really...then again when i get it i'll test it out and see how it performs.

This comment was edited at 10/29/2007 5:11 PM
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Geez, I didn't think it would be so thin! Did you guys do any temperature testing and also, did you guys test it in the Crysis demo?
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The GPU was running int he low 60's under idle conditions. Sadly no, we did not get a chance to run the Crysis demo on the 8800GT. However, the Crysis demo is amazing. ;)
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Just ordered the eVGA 8800gt superclocked from ncix!
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I definitely like how the 8800GT beats the more expensive 640MB 8800GTS so I went and ordered the XFX "alpha dog" version from NCIX aswell!
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Got the eVGA one from newegg :o looks like a beast w/ low power consumption and an unbeatable price!
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ATI is pretty much dead now...
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#21 ATi will be releasing their new line on November 15th, the RV670's...who knows how good they'll be...
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thats goin in my new build when i somehow get money.
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love the review, might get one of these cards
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That's pretty nice with a memory interface of only 256-bitrate. My old 6800 gt has that. I think the 8800 gts has around a 384 bitrate and the 8800 gtx higher then that. I guess that is something we should never look at? Even though most of the cheaper 8800 cards the only difference was the lower bitrate.

I have never owned an Ati card but I hope they get something going to get some competition so my next card will not cost so much :) If Amd would have been crushed by intel years ago we would all probably be paying 1k for a 1.2 ghz processor right now. That would probably be the top end. With no competition intel would have moved up the speeds very slowly.

This comment was edited at 10/30/2007 6:21 AM
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If i knew this was coming i would have waited a month to buy my 8800 D:
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Can the new 8800GT be used in the pci e x16?
cause they are pcie 2.0 ?
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thats great i just bought a new comp and put a GTX in it, niiiiiice
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#27, yes
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I'm definitely picking up one of these. Glad I out waited the GTS/GTX choice and this came along, finally!
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I'm buying this for Christmas.

This comment was edited at 10/31/2007 7:18 PM
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So getting this for my upcoming build ^_^
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Does anyone know how much performance is lost is you have PCI-E 16 mobo with a PCI-E 2.0 card?
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Niceeeeeeeeeeee Job man
But I'v heard that GTS > GT
So
Thank You
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someone buy me one of these =]
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very nice job..
the video card is beautiful, extremely good and the price is not too much..
congratz for the review man..
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good read
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I want one :(
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It's an amazing card. A definite step up from my aging 7900GS (paired with a capable processor, of course).
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